tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8081742307252789733.post5616397307058701914..comments2024-02-14T04:53:18.295-08:00Comments on Singapore Dissident: July 28, 2008; 2 months and 2 days languishing in SingaporeGopalan Nairhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15399145588654603667noreply@blogger.comBlogger55125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8081742307252789733.post-35952026577236936322008-08-15T13:00:00.000-07:002008-08-15T13:00:00.000-07:00To Anonymous on Aug10@9:00am:I'm sick and tired of...To Anonymous on Aug10@9:00am:<BR/><BR/>I'm sick and tired of malicious and mean-spirited people like you who make assinine comments like this:<BR/><BR/>"You are no longer a Singaporean but officially an US citizen, why don't you go back to your country and do the same thing you have been doing the same thing that you have been doing in Singapore?"<BR/><BR/>Quite apart from the fact that it is Singapore, and not the US, that is in dire need of actions such as Mr Nair's, you have gone on yet another of those purile diatribe, albeit a variant one, on "foreigners should not be 'interfering' in Singapore's domestic affairs".<BR/><BR/>Why don't you face up to the truth?<BR/><BR/>1) Even Singaporeans are not allowed to 'interfere' in Singapore's internal affairs - as if you have not seen how the PAP places countless obstacles in the way of opposition parties and other activists.<BR/><BR/>2) Even when Gopalan Nair was a Singapore citizen, he was diasallowed from 'interfering' in Singapore's domestic affairs; instead he was persecuted for it.<BR/><BR/>If evangelizing is indeed your forte, I suggest that your efforts are misdirected. Why don't you instead go evangelize the PAP with the two points I raised?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8081742307252789733.post-72729397979178266572008-08-14T17:24:00.000-07:002008-08-14T17:24:00.000-07:00"ERP will reduce congestion (for the rich and elit..."ERP will reduce congestion (for the rich and elites)" <BR/><BR/><BR/>Hey Pap doggies in this comments blog dont talk big lah! If you all are so happy with this bloody regime - state your full name!<BR/><BR/>Why so scared ah????<BR/><BR/>PAPees BULL SHIT!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8081742307252789733.post-68479078593805218612008-08-12T16:53:00.000-07:002008-08-12T16:53:00.000-07:00i wonder why even the pap supporters here are anon...i wonder why even the pap supporters here are anonymous, they should list their names like those so eager to get them publish on the forums.<BR/><BR/>if singapore is not a police state, why are all posting anonymous and people using fake names?<BR/><BR/>i believe this already speaks a lot about Singapore.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8081742307252789733.post-3763339166831379452008-08-10T11:59:00.000-07:002008-08-10T11:59:00.000-07:00To Anonymous Tue Aug 05, 07:15:00 PM PDT:From you ...To Anonymous Tue Aug 05, 07:15:00 PM PDT:<BR/><BR/>From you post, one can definitely tell that you are a typical Singapore - Selfish, mindless, ignorant, and impersonal. As long as your own needs are fulfilled, you don't care if the rest of the world extinct. Tsk tsk... Shame on you!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8081742307252789733.post-62443281218337814772008-08-10T09:00:00.000-07:002008-08-10T09:00:00.000-07:00Mr Nair,To be very honest with you, I've grown fro...Mr Nair,<BR/><BR/>To be very honest with you, I've grown from initially being amazed by your audacity to openly challenge the Singapore government to become completely worn-out and exhausted by your pursuit of justice. Your pursuit of justice being a big question mark as it totally makes no sense for a US citizen to be so enthusiastic about the political situation in Singapore. My only fair inference is that you are not making use of the best ways and alternatives to reflect to people, especially Singaporeans, the need to speak up.<BR/>Over time, I've come to understand that Singapore has always been in a very vulnerable position when compared to other countries in the region. It is small and lacks natural resources and therefore demands critically that its people are well-educated and well-trained in order to sustain its economy. Given also the diversity of ethnic groups in Singapore, it is vital that people here are united and living at peace with each other.<BR/>Your case of defending the rights of the human to speak up for what they feel or believe which seems noble at first is beginning to wane in support and credibility as more people realize that they are the only resources in this nation that is heavily crippled by its lack of space and natural resources. They are beginning to realize that many material luxuries they are able to possess now, the renowned education system and institutions, the sustained peace and stability and economic growth of the country, are the fruits of a competent government that has served the nation for long, without complaints. Although it may be true that sometimes what the government does may not take into the account of everyone in the community especially the lower income group and the minorities, I'd like to make a point that no leaders, especially the pioneering heroes, in this case MM Lee, would want to see what they have built to go down and from what I can see and continue to hope is that they continue to improve on their policies and meet the needs of the lower class in Singapore especially in times of inflation like the one which we are experiencing now.<BR/>Mr Nair, not that i disrespect you or anything of that sort, but I'd advise you to come into knowledge that there are more political leaders and regimes that deserve more criticisms and questioning than the leaders here in Singapore. You are no longer a Singaporean but officially an US citizen, why don't you go back to your country and do the same thing you have been doing in Singapore? I believe in full confidence that you'll receive more support for your criticisms meted out on the administration over there, assuming that they are logical and well-supported, than to discredit a government that has been faithful and possesses the potential to be even better.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8081742307252789733.post-3428094513042406232008-08-05T19:15:00.000-07:002008-08-05T19:15:00.000-07:00Aneh,you have achieved what you have set out to do...Aneh,you have achieved what you have set out to do.LKY spent more than halve his life to achieve what he is today.You think what you are doing can create any difference? Anyway,You have no right to be concern whether Singaporeans are being oppress or being stifled.You have given up that right.Balik Kampong is the best option for you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8081742307252789733.post-51413138415227046282008-08-05T16:14:00.000-07:002008-08-05T16:14:00.000-07:00Anonymous Tue Aug 05, 08:48:00 AM PDT said:"And to...<B><I>Anonymous Tue Aug 05, 08:48:00 AM PDT said:</I></B><BR/><BR/><I>"And to the flamers that want to put me down...Sorry but Im not going to click on this ranting blog ever again.I rather view some EMO girls' blog saying how life is pointless and meaningless than this.<BR/>So...FLAME ON!"</I><BR/><BR/>Oh goody! So now you'll never know that you've been called the illegitimate imbecile son of a whore-mongering disease-riddled goat-herd and that the world darkened perceptibly the moment you were conceived. Your fetid post is as malodorous and about as insightful as your flea-bitten armpits. You haven't had an original thought in your entire misbegotten existence. No EMO girl's life could possibly be as horribly devoid of meaning as yours so look in the mirror and knock yourself out, why don't you, hotshot?<BR/><BR/>And if you now sneak a peek at this blog (as we all know you will, you pathetic little apology for a turd) you won't be able to reply without calling yourself a liar, will you? Pig brain!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8081742307252789733.post-50045375604248160702008-08-05T15:26:00.000-07:002008-08-05T15:26:00.000-07:00Hey stupid "singaporean" @08:42 AM PDT,You are obv...Hey stupid "singaporean" @08:42 AM PDT,<BR/><BR/>You are obviously oblivious to the fact that Singapore's economic boom has always been due to a Dutch man by the name of Albert Winsemius who was responsible for all of Singapore's five year economic plans until his death a few years ago. <BR/><BR/>Not the Chinese man, Lee Stinking Yew that you are crediting it for.<BR/><BR/>And you also are not capable of distinguishing the cart from the horse.<BR/><BR/>See, this is how it works, stupid:<BR/><BR/>Only when you get into a position of goverment do you also get the opportunity to prove that you are capable of the same economic boom that you can shop around the world for, for the best economic brains to propel the country forward economically. <BR/><BR/>Not when the stinking insecure Chinese in government prevents others from getting into government in the first place.<BR/><BR/>That's right: not the other way around!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8081742307252789733.post-64403878763918106732008-08-05T15:18:00.000-07:002008-08-05T15:18:00.000-07:00@ Ganga:"Mr Nair has provided his version. I have ...<B><I>@ Ganga:</I></B><BR/><BR/><I>"Mr Nair has provided his version. I have provided the Officers' - albeit through my words. It is now up to the readers to arrive at their own conclusions."</I><BR/><BR/>Rubbish! Are you, a once-upon-a-time member of the S'pore police force, saying that you're speaking on behalf of the officers involved in this disgraceful affair? If so, then you need to append their names to your post to signify their assent. Otherwise we can only conclude that you're bullshitting desperately, and not for the first time either.<BR/><BR/>Admit it, you regurgitated a load of unsubstantiated rumour and scurrilous gossip without an iota of proof and tried to pass it off as fact. You were caught with your trousers down and your circumcised family jewels exposed for all the world to see. Now you're lamely trying to fall back upon the court of public opinion. That simply isn't good enough.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8081742307252789733.post-8823501493100841252008-08-05T14:31:00.000-07:002008-08-05T14:31:00.000-07:00Singaporean. said...:"dude, go build a booming eco...<B><I>Singaporean. said...:<BR/><BR/></I></B><I>"dude, go build a booming economy from a piece of shit fishing land. THEN come criticise Lee Kuan Yew and his government. you say all these things and yet have no idea who gave you the clothes on your back or a place to grow up in. SHAME on YOU."</I><BR/><BR/>Shame on YOU, so-called Singaporean, for not knowing your own nation's history. This land thrived from the time Sir Stamford Raffles (<B><I>not</I></B> LKY) founded it way back in 1819. If it was, as you so charmingly put it, 'shit fishing land', then your own bloody ancestors wouldn't have bothered emigrating here, now would they? Or are you implying your forebears were mindless imbeciles with nowhere else in the whole wide world to go to?<BR/><BR/>Long before the PAP or your godfather existed, S'pore boomed by virtue of its unrivalled strategic geographic position and its superb deep-water harbour. Those are its natural resources. That is why it became Britain's Far East crown jewel. Do you think the Japanese had nothing better to do than to waste lives and money occupying a useless fishing village? Even today despite political separation, Malaysia is still S'pore's hinterland and inseparable economic twin as it was long ago. With or without your venomous PAP's existence, our country would still be doing perfectly well, thank you very much.<BR/><BR/>Rip the propaganda blinkers from your feeble mind and look at this clip from 1960: <A HREF="http://otterman.wordpress.com/2008/07/23/changi-singapore-river-tiger-balm-garden-colour-film-footage-from-1960/" REL="nofollow">[Changi, Singapore River, Tiger Balm (Garden), colour film footage from 1960 « Otterman speaks…] </A>. That was <B><I>48 years ago</I></B> bubba, in case you can't count. Does this look anything like 'a piece of shit fishing land' ???<BR/><BR/>Last question: do you like to wake up in the morning feeling a fool? No? Then stop playing with yourself, dude.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8081742307252789733.post-11081831743043472402008-08-05T11:23:00.000-07:002008-08-05T11:23:00.000-07:00To "anonymous" @08:48 AM, good riddance if you don...To "anonymous" @08:48 AM, good riddance if you don't wish to log in here again. <BR/><BR/>I hope you keep to your word; political civilization is wasted on your kind anyway, so no loss to those of us who are interested in progress.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8081742307252789733.post-76986827945449923162008-08-05T08:48:00.000-07:002008-08-05T08:48:00.000-07:00From your posts , I assume you dislike the way Sin...From your posts , I assume you dislike the way Singapore Govt. is processing as a country.<BR/><BR/>When you said that Judge Belinda Ang was biased in the Lee Kuan Yew vs Dr.Chee Soon Juan for the three days,aren't you doing the same thing for the past few months?<BR/><BR/>Say,this country has progressed so much under the reign of the so-called Lee.Empire,but when u gained something,you will eventually lose something at the same time.Do u dare say that there is a country that operates in a system with no flaws?<BR/><BR/>From the past,many great leaders have great accomplishments but also with significant flaws in it that was debatable and still it remains a controversy till now.<BR/>A good example is Joseph Stalin, the leader of the USSR,the Soviet Russia,what have he done and accomplished under his rule?He helped the country to be one of the two superpowers in the world at that time,reshaped Soviet society with aggressive economic planning, in particular a sweeping collectivization of agriculture and development of industrial power. He also constructed a massive bureaucracy.But at the losing end,he was responsible of the millions of deaths as a result of various purges and collectivization efforts.<BR/><BR/>Singapore is a country that can operate on the current way and the results just show that Singapore is progressing using the way that you somehow dislike.<BR/>Despite all your rants on how the Singapore Govt. is so ridiculous in handling these cases,the question goes to you.<BR/>Why were you so stubborn in not giving your particulars to the police that asked you to give them?<BR/><BR/>Kay,let's see this situation in another point of view.<BR/>When the police asked about your particulars and asked you why you are here and what you are doing.If you given the police a answer of your own and given them your particulars.Do you think they would pursue you and find a reason to charge you for mis-behaving in public?What if you gave a smile and answered them?It's because you made ugly comments about these civil servants and protested to not giving your particulars,makes the whole thing to a agrument and soon to a conflict.<BR/>You said you are a fully-fledged lawyer but what your actions has reflect on,is nothing much than a arrogant self-centered person.<BR/><BR/>Sorry to say,but this is not your wonderful country ,USA.<BR/>This is Singapore,my friend.<BR/>You come here, you obey their rules.<BR/>You don't come here to blurt out that 'Oh i thought this world allows freedom of speech.<BR/><BR/>Sorry Bro.but what you have said only makes me feel that you are so ironic to the point that I'm curious how a adult with a lawyer's degree can speak like One slapping himself on the face.<BR/><BR/>And last thing.I'm a kid and i know that when I'm in wrong i repent on it.Don't be so stubborn in proving that your right.What you have posted in this blog just show how much you don't want to be proven wrong.<BR/>And to the flamers that want to put me down...Sorry but Im not going to click on this ranting blog ever again.I rather view some EMO girls' blog saying how life is pointless and meaningless than this.<BR/>So...FLAME ON!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8081742307252789733.post-10582877816328934392008-08-05T08:42:00.000-07:002008-08-05T08:42:00.000-07:00dude, go build a booming economy from a piece of s...dude, go build a booming economy from a piece of shit fishing land. THEN come criticise Lee Kuan Yew and his government. you say all these things and yet have no idea who gave you the clothes on your back or a place to grow up in. <BR/><BR/><BR/>SHAME on YOU.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8081742307252789733.post-56235125285220656252008-08-05T08:28:00.000-07:002008-08-05T08:28:00.000-07:00ive just read the 1st 2 comments on this issue and...ive just read the 1st 2 comments on this issue and i cant be bothered to read any further.<BR/><BR/>those 2 people typify the subservient ignoramuses in Singapore. the INDIFFERENT masses. as long as their lives are in order and in check they dont give a FUCK about what happens. <BR/><BR/>Singaporeans' freedom of speech has been so limited you'd think we were living in a communist country, which when you think about it, we kinda are. At least its how the country is being run. A democracy? please.<BR/><BR/>You people are telling him that he was asking for it (the lawsuit) but you guys are criticizing someone who's willing to stand up in what he believes in, he's putting his life at risk for YOUR own freedom. so what if he's not Singaporean? ARE YOU SINGAPOREAN? the irony lies in that you are not even doing FUCK SHIT while a US citizen has to remind you of the brainwashing and propaganda your fragile little mind has become polluted with. <BR/><BR/>go out of your house. experience the world a little bit. you'll see that sometimes keeping a low profile could only be detrimental for everyone in the long run as those in power abuse it and consolidate their place at the top.<BR/><BR/>there needs to be a change in guards for Singapore to TRULY progress. our values and freedom are sacrificed for financial success. Singaporeans have become the workhorses and robots with which economic utopia and efficiency is obtained. most have no life.<BR/><BR/>and as to gopalan's statement regarding cowardice. its a basic psychological mindset that is prevalent in everyone. those who are the most loudspoken and aggressive are the most insecure, coward people. looking at the resources available to Gopalan's opposition, it could hardly be said that this is even CLOSE to a fair fight. the irony of the justice system. there is no impartiality there.<BR/><BR/>those who disagree. you just fall under the indifferent category. i hope you never live to see the day that your rights have been totally subverted, and you, reduced to nothing more than a tool in economic advancement.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8081742307252789733.post-65964286088488936212008-08-05T08:07:00.000-07:002008-08-05T08:07:00.000-07:00Don't budge. This tactic of using libel suits agai...Don't budge. This tactic of using libel suits against legitimate speech is abhorrent and recognized as such. The Lee administration is facing growing problems but turning a blind eye. Do not imagine for a moment that things will not change. But change requires agency--i.e. people like hou.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8081742307252789733.post-9009090720811079002008-08-05T06:59:00.000-07:002008-08-05T06:59:00.000-07:00Mr Nair has provided his version. I have provided ...<I><BR/><BR/>Mr Nair has provided his version. I have provided the Officers' - albeit through my words. It is now up to the readers to arrive at their own conclusions.<BR/><BR/>I would however like to applaud Mr Nair's sense of fair play in allowing negative comments and opposing arguments to be posted on his blog commentary as part of the discussion.<BR/><BR/>Thank you and God Bless...<BR/></I>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8081742307252789733.post-44509387093615350542008-08-05T06:53:00.000-07:002008-08-05T06:53:00.000-07:00நியாயம் ஒரு நாள் வெல்லும், நம்பிக்கைத் தளராத உங்கள...நியாயம் ஒரு நாள் வெல்லும், நம்பிக்கைத் தளராத உங்களுக்கு எனது வாழ்த்துகள்.. :)Sathis Kumarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12941206392502088681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8081742307252789733.post-54823717990243979662008-08-05T06:09:00.000-07:002008-08-05T06:09:00.000-07:00@ Ganga:[1] "I honestly believe that you WOULD NOT...<B><I>@ Ganga:</I></B><BR/><BR/>[1] <I>"I honestly believe that you WOULD NOT have been arrested if the officers had known who you were at the scene. The officers involved are also regular patrolmen who could not have been acting on any special instructions."</I><BR/><BR/>Come, come, Mr. ex-policeman Ganga Sudhan. Do you seriously expect us to believe that there exists a <I>single</I> member of the S'pore police force who is unaware of who Gopalan Nair is and what he looks like, given the huge political ruckus and his photo all over the newspapers? More likely they all have a personal copy of his bio with instructions to nitpick on the slightest infraction, however ludicrous.<BR/><BR/>[2] From your blog: <I>"...abusive drunkards... I would even go as far as to say that he must have been extremely violent and aggressive to have 'forced' the officers into arresting him...he would choose to provoke officers and invite trouble for himself...The facts stated herein are as good as hearing from the officers involved themselves..."</I><BR/><BR/><B><I>Facts?</I></B> You do not provide <B><I>one</I></B> shred of evidence for these gratuitous comments, all of which are wildly speculative and entirely without foundation. Indeed, you allude to drunkenness while carefully omitting the Health Sciences Authority's finding of a blood alcohol level of 24 mg per 100 ml, well below the limit required to drive a vehicle. So what price your credibility?<BR/><BR/>[3] You brag that you know the investigating officer personally. Your personal details are advertised online for all and sundry to see. Is there even the faintest chance that you would post anything the slightest bit critical of your police authority friends and ex-colleagues knowing that they are aware of precisely who you are? Were you there at the scene of the alleged incident? No. And yet you feel confident that readers should trust what you say and take your 2 cents as unbiased and at face value. Heh.<BR/><BR/><BR/>All in all, it seems that your 'thoughts' are lacking in depth and have been arrived at without due care or effort. Thank goodness you are no longer in a position to enforce the law against S'poreans.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8081742307252789733.post-10503547730926079912008-08-05T05:32:00.000-07:002008-08-05T05:32:00.000-07:00Hi Mr Nair,This is not an anti-free speech stance;...Hi Mr Nair,<BR/><BR/>This is not an anti-free speech stance; instead it is an anti-abuse one. May I suggest that you DO NOT publish any post that is abusive. Like "alan's". I suspect that it is their racism, and not fair comment, that is driving their vitriolics.<BR/><BR/>Like it your not, your blog is YOUR personal property, and the abusers DO NOT have an automatic right of access to it. Your blog is not the same thing as, say, a newspaper that is financially supported by the funds of shareholders, advertisers and subscribers.<BR/><BR/>If these racist pigs have differences in opinion, they can well express that WITHOUT their racially motivated abuse.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8081742307252789733.post-31727885046300260352008-08-05T04:33:00.000-07:002008-08-05T04:33:00.000-07:00"Try doing away with the entire civil service you ...<I>"Try doing away with the entire civil service you idiot, and see what happens...What a moronic suggestion."</I><BR/><BR/>Yes it is, isn't it, "Alan"? Who suggested that? <B><I>You did!</I></B> And then you proceed to knock down <I>your own</I> argument.<BR/><BR/>That's called a strawman proposal. Did you really think readers would not notice this fallacy?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8081742307252789733.post-34663269222186762762008-08-04T22:53:00.000-07:002008-08-04T22:53:00.000-07:00YOU ARE AWESOME!! EMANCIPATE THE SERFS!!!!!!YOU ARE AWESOME!! EMANCIPATE THE SERFS!!!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8081742307252789733.post-26049728428251178792008-08-04T18:16:00.000-07:002008-08-04T18:16:00.000-07:00NEVER EVER GIVE UP YOUR VALUES LIKE STINKAPOREANS ...NEVER EVER GIVE UP YOUR VALUES LIKE STINKAPOREANS COWARDS!<BR/><BR/>YOU ARE A BRAVE AND GOOD PERSON!<BR/><BR/>SHOW THEM LEE JUNTA AND THE 81 BLOATED CABINET WHAT ARE RIGHTEOUS AND DARING TO SPEAK UP FOR RIGHTS!<BR/><BR/>well done!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8081742307252789733.post-90336574157243035942008-08-04T08:04:00.000-07:002008-08-04T08:04:00.000-07:00Enjoy your stay here Mr Nair, Oh I mean Mr Gopalan...Enjoy your stay here Mr Nair, Oh I mean Mr Gopalan Nair.....forgot that I better address you by your full name since calling someone by its full name is so important to you.<BR/><BR/>And since this weekend is National Day, which you would be spending time in Singapore still (I doubt you will be going back to USA by then) may I recommend that you go enjoy yourself at the parade.<BR/><BR/>You would meet a lot of people who are also watching the parade, and I am sure you will have more than 20 people wishing you well.<BR/><BR/>By the way there would be also be a lot of policemen around, make sure you create trouble or be a public nuisance or you would be charged in court again and you will have to extend your stay in Singapore.<BR/><BR/>Happy 43 National Day....Majulah Singapura!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8081742307252789733.post-52663387492654667422008-08-04T06:49:00.000-07:002008-08-04T06:49:00.000-07:00Hey readers, check this out.http://gangasudhan.com...Hey readers, check this out.<BR/>http://gangasudhan.com/blog/2008/08/singapore-dissident-goes-awry.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8081742307252789733.post-92053713733344261702008-08-04T00:36:00.000-07:002008-08-04T00:36:00.000-07:00Dear Mr Gopalan Nair,there is such a thing called ...Dear Mr Gopalan Nair,<BR/>there is such a thing called respect for others,<BR/>you see policemen, and u shout at them (pig donkey) ...what did you expect to happen? this is not primary school where you get a warning, this is verbal abuse...<BR/>not sure what your trying to do..<BR/><BR/>frankly im not impressed, you may think your trying to be a hero, but from my point of view, your just screwing your self up.. over<BR/>over <BR/>over<BR/><BR/>Nothing...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com